Cleopatra Gen 7 chapter 2

In the time Landon and I been married, he abused me in front of my mom.

 

and then again in front of a couple of guests that were over for my parents’ b-day party

Landon and I had unprotected sex since we wanted me to get pregant after he came home from who knows where on Saturday morning

sometime during the afternoon.. I started feeling queasy and had to dash to the toilet to “toss my cookies”

I went to the drugstore and went into the lady’s room and the test was postive!!

Mom called someone she knows is a doctor and I told the doctor..my worries about the kid(s) during my preganacny and Landon’s being abusive. He suggested “I think it would be better for you to go to the hospital to avoid Landon, until the baby (ies) are born.”

a day later:

I came home from shopping and the first thing Landon does is yelling at me about no food to eat. What does he think I am his servant?

I told mom through my tears  “Mom dear… because…. of Landon.. being…. so… abusive. I think its best for me to go to the hopsital until the kid(s) are born.”

 

Cleopatra Gen 7 Part 1

Hi I’m Isabelle..I’m not really happy at the moment..as you know I’m a lesbain..but I’m married a male to make my mom happy.

I got engaged to my Mom’s choice.  Had a bacholette party

married Landon

the first thing I discover after marrying him?

he’s  abusive.  I’m glad I’m able to escape to..my Professional as a stylists during the days..since he’s already will be gone to work by the time I get back home. (7:30pm). My mom just yells at me if I try to tell her that he’s abusive..and other women in arranged marriages complain about their MOTHER-IN-LAWS?

this is the dialogue that happens whenever I try to talk to mom about it:

Me “Mom?”  She “YES?” angrily.  Me: “Ladon’s abusive”  Mom: “I don’t f- care..you WILL NOT DIVORCE HIM. Over he’s abusive, or if he cheats..not until you produce some kids and I’m gone.”

On the other hand Dad is more accepting of me.  The two of us went to KFC for some supper.

Disabilty post part 1 History of the Attitudes toward disabled people

Note: I’m only doing this is because people need to be more aware!!

Disabled people like Same Sex couples, African-Americans, and women..have always been discrimated against. I mean wasn’t the 60s a movement for rights for Disabled people as well as rights for African Americans and women?  Even worse..is the fact that discrimination against disabled people was worse then the Jimmy Crows laws after the American Civil War (not to get confused with the England’s Civil War).

In the past people mental or psychical changelles were thought to be either 1)posses by demons, 2)under a witch crafts spell (did you know that red heads and lefties were burn at stake at witches?) or 3)punishment for either their own sin or 3 1/2)their parents’ sin.  This is called the “Traditional model”

In the 18th century there was more of a scientific understanding about cause of impairment but them people believed they could be “cured”. But some disabled couldn’t be cured so they were either 1)sent of to a institution or 2)hidden away at home. This is called the “medical Model”  This kind of model. This kind of model of thinking was: disabled needed to be “molded” to fit the world around them or  if they can’t..they should be sent away to an institution (I.E. Helen Keller’s “Teacher” Anne Sullivan..she became blind and as a little girl she and her brother..who had “Consumption” as it was called back them..who died from it..were sent to such a place) or shut up at home..where in either case only their MOST BASIC NEEDS WERE MET. Very often these people who were “different” were placed in the hands of professionals, who decided if they could go to school (and where), and special needs that need to be met,etc)

The Disabltiy Movement point out how the environmental around them causes more limitations for those disabled people. The medical model view was that the disabled person’s lack of rehabilitation. Not that the environment around them that’s the problem.  i.e. higher education, finding work, school settings (again Anne Sullivan..she begged a doctor who came to the intuition she was in..to go to..school for the blind..at 14 years of age!!), etc.   This is the model that is used mostly in TV shows and movies..(the only exception is the play and movie “The Miracle Worker”) but this model is starting to be tosses out the window.

In more recent years the standpoint of a disabled child, or adult’s right to belong to and be valued  the society in general is called the social model. This way you look at the the disabled person’s strengths and look at the physical and soical problems he/she has to overcome. (ie. home, school, work). This model suggested that disabled people’s disadvantage is because of the discrimination like racism, heterosexim and Sexism..all of them are fundamental to the society. In this kind of movement the “cure” is changing the enviroment to suit the person not change the person to suit the environment.

Medical Thinking    

child is faulty  

diagnosed
 labelled 
impairment becomes centre of attention
  Assement, Monitoring, programmes of therapy imposed  
 Segregation and alternative services 
Ordinary needs are put 
re-entry if "normal" enough or permentally excluded
society remains unchanged

Social Model:

child is vauled

Strength and needs as identify by self and others

Identify barriers and find solutions 

Out come base programmes 

Resources are made available to ordinary services 

training for parents and teachers

Relationships are nurted

Diversity welcomed, child included

Society evolves 

Discrimination towards disabled and other mintorty groups are because of contact through ignorance and prejudice of others..”You have to be Carefully Taught!” So to stop this and other discrimination it should start in schools.

Who is disabled?

Learning disablities (Dyslexia)

Speech and Language impairment (I’m here)

“disfigured”

little people (i.e. Muchkins from Wizard of Oz)

Sensory impairments (blind, deaf)

Chorinic Illness (HIV/AIDs)

Diabetes

Epilepsy

http://attitudes2disability.wordpress.com/

Ptomley Legacy Gen 6 chapter 4

Sorry for no pictures in this chapter but I having some problems with..posting the pics.

Elanor catches Isabelle with Miss Smith

Isabelle:”Did Mom put you up to spying on me?”

Eleanor shifting feet: “No she didn’t”

Isabelle: “Eleanor you are shifting you’r feet and you only doing that when you’re nervous or are telling a lie” (Note: Isabelle and Eleanor are two sisters out of a set of triplets)

Eleanor (tries stopping shifting feet): “No”

Isabelle: ‘You mind is telling me other wise”

Eleanor

Eleanor: “Yes she did after Esther told Mom about Esther catching you with HER”

Isabelle: “Why can’t you leave me–US–alone..I will have to obey mom’s wishes soon but not when I’m a teen do I?”

Peter and I had b-days

Isabelle catches Eleanor with a female.

“These clothing are riddclous who serious wear these anymore? Besides  they are SO history inaccurate too..according to my History class. For one thing..the ankles should be COVERED” that was Isabelle..

They had another prom this time Leah won home coming Queen..the first time Elizabeth won it.

Ptomely legacy Gen 6 chapter 3

I  had another set of triplets..all girls this time. They aged up into pretty teens. My mom died not to longer after they turned into children

When they were children..I had them and their brother sit at the table for a family meeting:

the dialogue was pretty much like this:

I said : Ok everyone here?”  others:”Yes!!”   “You understand that the person who becomes the heiress of this generation..not you ..what-ever-your-name-is. you’re a boy. .the heiress MUST bring in the next generation ” Esther asked: “What if the heiress..falls in love with a female?”  “she has to marry the male I have chosen for her..since there can NOT be any lesbians* in this family. Gays are another matter..we can have them.”

some days later they had their birthdays:

they had prom 1 and they all went “doe” (ie no dates)

a couple days later Esther or was it Elizabeth? (they look so alike I can’t even tell who’s who and they weren’t even in the same birth!!)  caught Isabelle, the heiress flirting with a neighborhood girl Miss Smith

Esther/Elizabeth  “Isabelle you know you as THE heiress wouldn’t be able to marry Miss Smith!! Its against the rules Mom told us about at the family meeting!!”

Isabelle “I know..but remember I’m unlucky?

Esther/Elizabeth: “That’s besides the point!!”

Esther/Elizabeth told me a couple of days later..

but before Lizzie/Esther could tell me..Peter and I went on a free vaction and this is what our security cameras got before we came back:

but by the time Peter and I got back (an hour early then planned)..the kids were in bed with no sign of the party Eleanor had.

 

*I, the author, of this legacy have nothing against lesbians..its just for story-telling purposes.

DIsney doesn’t own the copyright to fairytales.

I made a fairytale EP  thread  awhile back and I bumped it recently and on it LittleV was claiming that Disney owned the copyrights to the fairytales, and also saying that Disney made them popular, and I said they were already popular years before Disney made them into movies or else they wouldn’t survive to this generation.    I mean wouldn’t saying Disney made them popular, be like saying Vegas made the Eiffel Tower famous?

And the fairytales, along with Peter pan, Jungle book, 101 Dalmatians, Alice in Wonderland are in the public domain.

I mean I don’t see Disney suing either the Shrek series (which I know is a spoof of Disney movies) or the “Sisters Grimms” series author  despite them both have: Cinderella/Snow White/Sleeping Beauty, the puppet boy, etc characters.

But Mickey mouse&co. ARE owned by Disney-so they can ask for a daycare to remove it.

Ptomely legacy Gen 6 chapter 2

A couple of days the babies had their b-days and aged into toddlers. Shortly afterward me and Peter had an argument:

Peter started to be like this “How about we send all our kids to boarding school when they age into children?”

I was like:

“No..just because YOU don’t like kids..doesn’t mean we will send ALL of them away. We will only send the boys away. That’s final”

they learned their skills:

my mom and her husband went on a date:

he died not to long after their date:

I then hosted a furneal (why in the world didn’t it they just call it a wake?)

 

Ptomely Legacy Gen 6 chapter 1

Hello, my name is Mary named after the character from The Seceret Garden-no I don’t  have a garden secret or otherwise

after me and my siblings graduated, I got engaged to Peter Hugo:

had a hen party

 

got married:

several days later I gave birth to triplets (Philip, Leah and Esther)

my father did some  cheating on the side:

parents had b-days:

Jarise9&Fluttereyes having debate on thread that neither started

This oringally started on page 14 but the actually arguing between the two doesn’t started until page 15:

 

“We don’t want to download churches. If we wanted to do that, this thread wouldn’t be here. What is wanted is some sort of open venue that a player could convert into a church if they want to. And what has been suggested is a podium that would attract people to gather around and listen, pretty much the way the wedding arch already does (or is supposed to), for those who neither want custom content, or who are not allowed to download anything from the internet.

And, despite the fact that the OP used the terms “church” “house of worship” and “Sunday”, what is being ignored is that she also used the word “generic” which means generalized, one-size-fits-all. And what is also being ignored is that the player is not asking for a Christian-specific venue; so those of you who are going around saying “well, if you cater to one religion, you have to cater to all” can just put a sock in it.

Because, for the LAST time…this isn’t about adding a specific religion to the game. This isn’t about EA forcing players to play a religious venue. This is about some people wanting to create a somewhat realistic venue for their Sims to gather that they can pretend is a church. And to be able to have someone give a speech that they can pretend is a sermon.

And as it has been pointed out time after time after time after time…(and repeatedly ignored) the venue and the podium can be used in a variety of ways, and it is strictly OPTIONAL.

Stupid needless religious debate notwistanding…that’s all this was ever about.”

fluttereyes’ post:

That is the Original Post. For the last time, what religion do you know that goes to church on a Sunday Morning, Jews? Muslims? Oh no that’s right, Sunday is specifically a day of worship for Christians.

I don’t suppose any suggestions will make anyone happy really, will they? Sometimes we just have to make do with what we have. I never thought that I would be the one to end up defending EA| over something but seriously, the comments here have changed the original post but the original post is asking for a Christian church and that is obvious by the day of worship chosen.

I guess it’s true what they say, some people will never be happy, even if you do do provide them with a solution.

I am surprised that lots are now considered to be cc too.

As far as I’m concerned, if EA want to have a church or pretend church that’s really a generic (or non denominational) building and let people pretend it’s a church, then that’s fine by me.

The reality though is that they do give you the ability to make one, but they will never be able to make it open as it would have to contain 8 Sims or less and one of them would be the preacher, so basically 7 worshipers. They would make it a rabbithole and if they did, then I wouldn’t be happy as I like my weddings to be out in the open so I can enjoy them.

Maybe people should think about how this game works and the game engine it uses and then they would realise the reality of such a thing. Heck we can’t even get into the police station, I’d rather do that first so I could see the Sims in jail etc. Yeah I know, someone will post that as their very own idea within days.

We don’t even get into restaurants and you lot want a place of worship or a generic podium as a pretend church that is to be filled with Sims that isn’t a rabbithole, and you also obviously want it to have variable days of worship to keep it fair to all religions, right? okey dokey.

(quote from Jarise9’s post):

Yes that is what you are pointing out, but some of us are going by the content in the original post which asks for something completely different. Maybe one of you could do an ‘I want a generic podium’ post, then that is all it will be about.

jarise9 next post:

*fluttereyes, congratulations.

You have accomplished two things today:

1) You have gotten on my LAST nerve.

2) You have magnificently illustrated my point that the only reason this thread is controversial is because people like you *make* it so.

Enough already. I’m not ignorant, so you can stop quoting the original post as if I’m some stupid moron who is too dense to get the idea that *obviously* the OP was asking for a Christian church, because *horrors!* she suggested that *her* Sims could go to church on Sunday.

Sorry, but I don’t read it that way. Nor do I find the idea of having a meeting place where people can sit down and listen to a speaker any indication that EA is forcing religion down people’s throat, and how many times do I have to repeat the word OPTIONAL before *you* figure out that we are trying to advocate something that many players want, and that can be put into a community lot bin where they could download it with a “Visitors Allowed” tag on it?

As for your ridiculous assertion that EA could never be able to make it an open venue, because you can only have 8 Sims on the lot, and one of them would be the preacher, that’s the silliest excuse I’ve ever heard. I’m not asking for a full church. And it doesn’t bother me that very few Sims would show up. What I want is for my Sim (who may or may not be the preacher) to be able to get up and talk and have the other Sims listen to them. That’s it, period, end of story. And Sunday notwithstanding, if I chose my Sim to go to church on Saturday, then, by your reasoning, if the OP had used the word “Sabbath” or even Saturday, you could then accuse her of wanting to add Judaism, Seventh Day Adventism, or Jehovah’s Witness into the game. And I think Mormons also worship on Sundays, so your argument is spurious at best.

There is a difference in asking for gameplay that affects all players, such as the requests for added ages in the game, or more interactions that not everyone wants, and asking for an optional venue and an optional object that would only affect the players who choose to use those things.

You seriously need to get off that soapbox. You are welcome to quote the original post if you want, just to make sure that I “get it”, but I can assure you that if you do that, the only person that would be looking foolish by now is you. In other words, give it a rest. Your arguments against EA putting either the open venue or the podium in the game are getting stale and by this time, they are largely meaningless.”

Fluttereyes:

“I have to say that people have just completely lost it on this post and that is why there should never be any discussions about anything remotely religious on a site.

Jarsie, I don’t have any concern about getting on your last nerve, it’s not like you don’t get on many people’s nerves. You are determined not to see my point and I know you know I’m right, well that is if you understand the game engine ou are always reminding other people of.

You’ve obviously had a bad day so I’ll leave it at that.

It’s interesting to see how many people that quote the rules regular break then themselves.

I honestly think that not all who are for this are really for it and they just want an argument, well argue away to yourselves, this is a nonsense post and I have no interest in it anymore at all. Rant away to yourselves. ”

 

fluttereyes’ response to Jarise9post 2:

“It’s not about being right or wrong, it’s about Jarsie having a bad day and taking it out on the forum members.

Jarsie, you tell me to get off the soap box, nobody else can get on it because you’re always on it.. You are on the aging thread saying you’d much prefer more interactions, etc, yet you sit here and argue for a lot? Get a grip. I suggest walking around the block instead of coming here to get your aggression out.

I can’t be bothered with people who just argue for the sake of arguing, at least I was trying to work out why it can never happen, and it won’t.

Any hint of remote religion in this game, even in a generic way or whatever you want to call it, would bring EA crashing to the ground with lawsuits, or worse.

My points are valid and that will be proved when it doesn’t happen.”

jarsie9 post:

It’s not against the forum rules to discuss religion if it relates to an idea for the Sims game. It *is* against the rules to have a religous signature.

And I agree with mikitta47. If EA puts in a meeting hall in the community lot in the game, and adds the “ranting and raving” soap box (a nice box that Sims can stand on and speechify) and the “Listen Up!” podium that attracts Sims to stand or sit around and listen, I doubt very much that anybody is going to go to all the trouble to sue EA.

On what grounds? Freedom from religion? Separation of church and state? Gimme a break! I can’t think of a single lawyer who would waste his or her time or money suing a video-game company over an *optional* (use if you want to, or not)venue or game object.

And yes, Little V, this thread is still going. Please feel free to hit that report button. We know you want to…if you haven’t already.

And by the way, it’s gone beyong a mere download, because not everyone has a viable internet connection, and people who want these things or who don’t mind them, should have a chance to have them.”

Ptomley Legacy Gen 5: Chapter 3

We had a pool party:

then my daughters went to prom:

one of the kids throw eggs at someone’s house:

they had their birthday:

and they graduated and two moved out, one married and the heiress is waiting for her BF to come over to age him up: